Remington 7 - The only primer specifically marketed by Remington as "benchrest" quality. Click Photo to read full test results in Target Shooter Magazine. the frozen ones. Proud Member Of The NRA. Primer Size Chart . Large Rifle = LR, Large Rifle Magnum = LRM, Large pistol =LP, Brand/type Power Average Range Std. CCI 300 STD Large Rifle Primers - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. Size Large. LPM = Large Pistol Mag . However, I have seen or heard of many examples where the the primer that gave the best results might not have been the one that would have been intuitively picked based on its brisance. grains in, or a variety of combinations). primers could be tested at different temperatures under the same conditions to see if temperatures made any difference. The line that shows 0000003606 00000 n We know that major seating faults definitely have an effect, but do minor variations in seating tension too? Ive had a slam fire. for the 300 Weatherby magnum. But if you cant spare the time right now, here are some highlights below: Primer with Lowest Velocity: Remington 9 M Magnum (2780 fps) really see any indication from the above test to change that. The standard pocket for a Large Pistol primer is somewhat shallower than its Large Rifle counterpart, specifically, 0.008 to 0.009 inch less. I think we have enough data above to get some sort of idea of how Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. Holland, a talented shooter from the UK, tested no less than sixteen (16) different large primer types using a custom F-TR target rifle shot from the bench. 0000015264 00000 n Compare Compare Now. 0000004445 00000 n Thanks ! I know this powder is far too slow for this application, but we thought 300 | 1,000 Count $ 42.99. Seems they give me good results across the board. 0000054298 00000 n If you used my "Benchmark/Baseline/95% Solution" load method, you'd know in a few shots if your new primer choice was hotter, cooler or the same. The brass colored wolf primers always fire fine in my bolt guns (and in my ar15 as well). Federal Small Rifle Primers (Champion) 1000/Box $219.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: Federal; Item Number: 205 BK; NOTE: Values in chart are based on 15-Shot strings. V361617. Must add the Remington License Plate Frame to your cart, one per order. 2.6-3.5 .2090, 18 Fed Match GM150M 3.05 2.6-3.7 .2299. I have not measures themperhaps your not seating them fully? $ 249.99. If you shoot a .308 Win, or any cartridge that uses a Large Rifle (LR) primer, you should read an important article by Laurie Holland in Target Shooter Magazine. of those horrible looking plastic stocks. Thats counter-intuitive and its odd that Rems were at opposite ends of the speed spectrum among ALL primers tested. temperatures. There's not a lot of variance in primer burn rate, only in quantity of powder to burn per primer. Match King bullet, molly coated. 4.1-6.0 .4300, 7 Remington 9 1/2 LR 4.75 3.7-6.25 .5679, 8 Fed Match GM210M 4.64 4.0-5.6 .3296, 9 Federal 210 LR 4.62 CCI BR2 and the Fed 's were the most even of the common ones. Rifle Calibers; Rifle Recoil Table; Handgun Caliber Chart; Handgun Recoil Chart; Caliber Comparisons; Ammo Size Chart; Shot Size Chart; . Holland, a talented shooter from the UK, tested no less than sixteen (16) different large primer types using a custom F-TR target rifle shot from the bench. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Stronger hit is probably more consistent. In Winchester testing labs, primers are constantly and rigorously tested for consistency and sensitivity at temperatures and conditions far beyond the range of normal usage. It has a Hart barrel #5 and a 0000001395 00000 n CCI 34 - 7.62mm Large Rifle Primers Box of 1 000 Limit 5 per customer. Out of stock. load have been discussed many times before. If you are shooting a 22 Cooper, Hornet, or a Bee, the .020" cup will perform admirably. mounts. The following loads were shot in a Remington 700 chambered We had to stop our test at this stage, as our TRG-41 got I only remember that there wasn't a heckuva lot of difference in any of them, until you start comparing one end of the list against the opposite. These are the links to the two pages, directly. Must add the Federal Dry Bag to your cart, one per order. 0000001157 00000 n I just remembered people liking them. These include the 308, 25-06 Remington, 300 Weatherby magnum, and finally the Rifle Calibers; Rifle Recoil Table; Handgun Caliber Chart; Handgun Recoil Chart; Caliber Comparisons; Ammo Size Chart; Shot Size Chart; . Wolf/Tula Small Rifle 223 SR223 - #KVB-223M "This is the newest primer available in the Wolf line. Here are the primer types tested: Test Rig: Osprey Rifles-built F-TR rifle with Savage PTA action, 32 Bartlein 1:12-twist Heavy Palma barrel, and Dolphin Gun Company modular stock with an F-Open/Benchrest fore-end. Large rifle primers - which measure about .128 inches in height and .212 inches in width. rifle, chambered for the 338 Lapua. is a double base powder, same bullet and brass. 4.0-5.0 .2460, 11 CCI 200 LR 4.28 2854 0 obj <>stream We got them as PMC brand here until that company disappeared and when we get them nowadays, which is rarely, they use the Russian manufacturers name, Murom. I also had no problem finding the thread in the archives. With those caveats: Forgot to add: there is no difference between the Fed 210 and the 210M except that the 210M is their match primer. Primer Testing Reference You will see a large difference if you go from a large rifle primer to a magnum primer so look at primer Brisance. Remington 9-1/2 Large Rifle Centerfire Primers - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. of extruded Hodgdon H4831. The generally accepted difference is heat is 6 percent, up and down from the middle ground CCI200, although that is subject to actual scientific data, which I . in a Ruger Target model rifle. var _gaq = _gaq || []; Add to Wishlist. New. Thanks. Primer Testing Reference. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. The rifle has a 26-inch barrel. Sep 9, 2009. Great OP. Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. I cannot 1 Fed Match GM215M 6.12 5.23-6.8 .351. . Not that I have found, and why I said "nothing". This is an important test, with significant findings. here that there is nothing scientific about this experiment. chart, http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_st_mamotaip_200909/, http://www.castingstuff.com/primer_testing_reference.htm. The only thing they changed was the primer. WHILE MAGTECH BRAND PRIMERS HAVE NOT BEEN IMPORTED AND OFFERED FOR SALE THROUGH AUTHORIZED CHANNELS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THERE ARE STILL SUBSTANTIAL QUANTITIES REMAINING IN RELOADER'S INVENTORIES. I like the Wolf/Tula also because there a couple .0001s larger diam. The amount of work involved to do the same test as you conducted herein would be immense, which is probably why it has never been published together as a single body of work. Out of stock. The effects of different primers, normal and magnums, on a load have been discussed many times before. In part 1 of my Large Rifle Comparison I take a look at each manufacturer's particular primer and give a quick overview. Apr 30, 2012. Keep them all the same. By The Copper Pill. Match event calendar and rifle competition accuracy training tips. What I wonder is how they differ in their caloric content (energy content). Three shot groups. RockyRaab, the only difference between their list and yours is that they list CCI BR4 and CCI 400 as hotter than FED 200. 2.7-3.5 .2406, 17 Federal 150 LP 3.11 NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. Handloader Magazine does it every once in a while. Let us start with Large Rifle Primers (LRP) vs Large Pistol Primers (LPP). The first "magnum" primer, the Federal 215 was designed for this very purpose. Take them with a grain of salt and as a guide only. RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, Federal 215 and Winchester standard and magnum LR primers. (function() { I found this a while back but it seems it goes against the Win primers being hotter than the CCI. 14 Likes. Primers labeled "match grade" cost 10 to 20 percent more than standard versions. The ES/SD numbers will therefore be higher than is typical with five-shot strings. That is how I came up with the results. CCI Bench Rest Large Rifle Primers 1000/Box $199.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: CCI; Item Number: 10 BK; CCI Large Rifle Primers 1000/Box $149.99; Notify Me When Available; . All Primers have a different Brisance. _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.accurateshooter.com']); An old rule of thumb suggests the use of magnum primers any time the powder charge is 60 grains or more. Another thing that is not in this test, but I have noted, is using a newsprint wad over the primer. Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. 33. Read more; CCI Aps Strips . %%EOF Shotgun (209) CCI - 209. 41 - Small Military Rifle Primers | 1,000 Count $ 119.99 $ 99.99. A write-up will be done soon. One new winner* is announced every week! same bullet and brass. I took four large pistol primers (CCI 300's), four large rifle primers (CCI 200's) and four large rifle bench rest primers (CCI BR-2's) and measured the width and depth of all three primer types. This would give us some sort of idea of how they perform in Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. If you are to use the taller Large Rifle primer, we recommend reaming the primer pocket deeper (.125"-.132"). Originally designed for the bolt-action Mosin-Nagant rifle, it was used during the late tsarist era and throughout the Soviet period to the present day. But rules of thumb aren't perfect, and plenty of cartridges use charges from 55 grains to 65 grains .30-06, .270 Win. I think it is fair to say that even the cooler primers work, providing the reloader has been careful to work up the loads and allows for volume, powder coatings and temperature at which the loads will be used. 0000077528 00000 n Large rifle primers all appear to have the same cup thickness, no matter what the type. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. We just wanted to ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. CCI 400 primers are designed for .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, .219 Zipper, and .222 Remington loads: NOT for .223 Remington! the results of each group so you can compare that with others, as well as the group Small pistol and rifle primers utilize a cup 0.175" in diameter, while large pistol and rifle primers measure 0.210" across. 0000054368 00000 n 0000002349 00000 n this with the others. In firearms and artillery, the primer (/ p r a m r /) is the chemical and/or device responsible for initiating the propellant combustion that will push the projectiles out of the gun barrel.. A F215 in a .338 Win Mag load. %%EOF Ballistic Tips paired with 58.0 grs. A homemade test of some primers that's interesting : Note the author says it's DMS (doesn't mean squat). We were using standard large rifle primers for all cases up coated. They can cause primer piercing within stout loads in .223 Remington applications. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); Doesn't appear to work. 0 AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. 2 Winchester WAALite 37 VihtaVuori N340. The first "magnum" primer, the Federal 215 was designed for this very purpose. As Slamfire said, the #34 and #41 military hard primers likely will be more constant. $7.49. The redesigned metal parts improve sensitivity and reduce seating force. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Interesting read, thanks! This is the home made tester. The pressure used to seat primers, pocket uniforming, flash hole uniforming, and seating depth are all factors. 0000015039 00000 n 0000053144 00000 n It was topped with a Leupold 6.5-20X scope in Leupold 0 It's higher than 30-30, and not much less than the 30-06. 18,4. effects on this. This is a great post and definitely deserves a sticky in the reloading section, Thanks for posting. There's not a lot of variance in primer burn rate, only in quantity of powder to burn per primer. The following are with 75 grains of Reloader 19. Are Wolf Primers still consistent? Note the spreads. Some of Lauries results may surprise you. Most of the tests were of 100 or more primers. might make it easier to compare the velocity at normal temperature and cold Since these were readily available, I chose these two primers for use in this test. SPM = Small Pistol Mag . Primer sizes can be broken down as follows: Small rifle primers - which are about .175 inches in diameter and .120 inches tall. $11.99. The following are the results of a 308 Winchester, shot in 40,5. Federal Champion Centerfire Small Rifle Primer - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. well in this rifle before, and we did the same with VVN 540, as it is supposed Add to Wishlist. And, NO! A larger sweet spot means more reliable ignition in guns that produce off-center hits. Get a deck of Remington Playing Cards for $1 with ammo purchase. 0000077042 00000 n 0000002213 00000 n brass. On the 6mm BR forum a guy took a bunch of photos of different primers and measured the flame against a ruler to determine the aggressive rating of the primer. BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Cartridge Primer Size . 0000001584 00000 n http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/77010865, http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/article.cfm?tocid=654&id=50, http://www.accuratereloading.com/primer.html. The cartridge remains one of the few standard-issue rimmed . It was also years ago and things may have changed. SP = Small Pistol . 0000006474 00000 n This has been noted by some sharps shooters when they break a firing pin. The LRP is at least .008 taller than the LPP and has a significantly thicker cup (not shown on chart). I have never looked at primers apart from reliability. This is more visual and tells a good story too. A good question Clive! We picked this load because it shot reasonably Compare Compare Now. Non-corrosive, all weather primers deliver fast, dependable ignition under any shooting condition. Closed the bolt and off she went. But be sure to remove it before you pop a primer, thermometers propelled by the GI's wolf whistles and shattering on the walls of the ward. 4.5-7.4 .4832, 4Winchester WLRM 5.45 5.1-6.0 .2046, 5 Remington 9 1/2 LRM 5.09 3.5-6.75 .6641, 6 Winchester WLR 4.8 firing 15 Nosler 130-gr. 0000053767 00000 n The standard primer sizes for metallic centerfire (rifle and pistol) cartridges are small (.175" diameter) and large (.210" diameter). $7.30. 2829 0 obj <> endobj Three shot groups. Dev, 1 Fed Match GM215M 6.12 5.23-6.8 .351, 2 Federal 215 LRM 5.69 Depending on your needs and expectations, they may be worth the extra cost. PRODUCT No: TYPE OF PRIMER USED FOR PCS PER BOX Three shot groups. Primer with Highest ES/SD: Remington 9 M Magnum (47/14.0 fps) test, using all the different primers that we have here. (The total velocity spread for all primers was 35 fps). only the velocity is the average of the three groups above it. were of 50 when limited amounts were available. And small rifle primers within the large. work up a load from a safe, published starting load. It's higher than 30-30, and not much less than the 30-06. Not that I've ever seen. $5.03. Does anyone have or know of a chart that lists primers from the hottest to the lightest? The one published by "precision shooting" is posted at the following link: http://www.prfelr0.f2s.com/prfelr0/ click on primer 1 and primer2. On the one hand, it's a shame that we don't have better information about primers. Up to 6,000 psi difference just by changing primer brands. Thanks, DR. The Rem's had some very wild shots high and low. 0000012690 00000 n the 3 frozen overnight. Fiocchi 616 Shotshell Primers #209 | 1,000 Count $ 89.99. We thought of trying 3 different powders in each case All powder charges Ive since rerun the series with .308 Win Palma brass and small primers. Out of stock. This may be the most comprehensive and thorough LR primer test ever done. This testing was done to try and rank primers by power (brisance). The following loads were shot in a Sako TRG-41 target Cases larger than that we normally used magnum primers. were selected and match prepped, all have the same weight. 5180 meters per second for Azide, 5200 meters per second for Styphnate.3. Laurie loaded .308 Win ammo* with 16 LR primer varieties and then tested for average velocity, ES/SD, and group size. And standard both Magnum. Another unexpected finding was that with all of the 17-round strings halted for 15 or more minutes for barrel cooling between shots 10 and 11, in over half of the strings shot 11 produced a (low) MV that was out of the range of the others and had to be discounted. What is the pressure of a .44mag? Posted: 5/29/2018 9:45:54 PM EST. $109.99: 42 wks ago: Notify: Grafs: Fiocchi Primer Large Rifle 1 500/bx. RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, Great article/op. To date, the best I approach have seen is that it is wise to have several primers that cover a range of brisance and simply test them empirically to find the one that works best with a particular load. As an aside, a couple of years ago, shortmags.org published a list of primers from hottest to coolest. Thanks! I finally had a primer fail, just last week. Primer Cross Reference Chart 4050 S. Clark St., Mexico, MO 65265 Grafs.com 800-531-2666 CCI Federal Fiocchi Remington Winchester I think I am going to try out some 450's now because I don't need to worry about slam fires in my 6.5x47L and they tend to be cheaper. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; The military imposes specific upper and lower sensitivity limits. 0000028110 00000 n hbbd```b``:"gI~ 2.l#0qd f$3|{ 4 It is obvious that the thicker cups will withstand more pressure. It is beyond question that switching primers can often improve (lower) ES/SD with a given load. The testing was apparently done with a homemade ballistic pendulum, which left a lot to be desired. CCI 350 Magnum Large Pistol Primers 100-Pack $ 6 99 6 dollars 99 cents. I made one up for rifles cartridges once, for my own use but the method I used isn't very scientific so it might not be valid. 0000010068 00000 n All the following groups were 3 shots at 100 yards, I wrote I am keen to understand how the Sellior and Bellots went ,not sure on some of the abbreviations.Sellior and bellot are becoming quite common place in Australia,though I havent seen many reviews as to their primers,as they are the cheapest ,they may not always be the best.currently running up loads of Swede using 2209 and Sierra 123hpbt. Dont know why they tested 210M primers as they seem to have gone the way of the passenger pigeon. CCI BR2 Large Rifle Primer 100-Pack $ 13 99 13 dollars 99 cents. 5.0 out of 5 star rating (5) Very interesting. Many handloaders think the 215 is still the hottest commercial rifle primer, but the CCI and Winchester magnum rifle primers are just as hot, if not a little hotter. 0000028040 00000 n It takes a Large Rifle Magnum primer to reliably light this much powder. In this case, it was a Federal large rifle magnum. Clive. Within every Remington primer is a group of subcomponents assembled to exceptionally tight tolerances. While working my way through college at a local gun shop, I advised a customer frustrated with his inaccurate handloads to try match-grade primers. Sierra 300 grain Match King bullet. It will still fire, but they get fliers and open groups. 5.2-6.5 .4437, 3 CCI 250 LRM 5.66 Ranked in order of power. Thanks for the insight Rocky. A forum community dedicated to Smith & Wesson firearm owners and enthusiasts. 100%. At minimum load a handful of reduced loads with a new primer. It may not display this or other websites correctly. average of all the 4 groups above it. It has always been my impression that low ES/SD correspond to optimized combustion; that is to say when the primer, cartridge volume (pressure cell), powder charge, were all optimized to give optimal combustion for a given bullet weight. Keep to the lower end of reloading recommendations. were very even, but this was a limited lot and they are not widely available. 41 Rifle Primers - 100 Count. $8.09. A different order between a few wouldn't surprise me in the least - especially if I did it all again with a different standard load. rifle in its original stock, and installed a Leupold 6.5-20X scope in Ruger I think the BR4 is milder than the CCI 400 primers. Primer Flash Test Photos. use the Brisance chart to adjust the powder charge to a safe level. Trying to decide which primers to buy next. Quest for Less Vertical Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Vertical Dispersion Test Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Primer Availability Report Wolf Primers Have Arrived, Primer Comparison Testing with 6 BRA at 500 Yards. (As a note of interest, small pistol primers are .017" thick and large pistol primers are .020" thick.) Out-of-Stock. Weighing Primers: I did some test weighing and found the bench rest had virtually no variations. LR = Large Rifle . Read more; CCI Aps BR4 Small Rifle Benchrest (1000) $ 135.00. Can you in. I quit shooting them years ago because they made a mess of the bolt face even with new W-W brass. I did not test the 210M. So my question is whether you would expect to see a very similar trend among the primers you tested with other cartridges and/or bullet weights commonly used in F-TR or F-Open? CCI 250 MAG Large Rifle Primers - 100 Ct. $9.49. 100. In the recent past I had been using BR-4's but have found the extra flash from #41's to give me slightly better groups at 1k. Five round with the RWS primers hang fired, including 2 of The following loads are with 41.2 grains of VVN 540, which 0000007461 00000 n So, the short version is, use the primer recommended in the recipe. If the brass has a large. All Rights Reserved. Powder Burn Rate Chart; Primer Manufacturer Chart; Shellholder Chart; Bullet Abbreviations; User Loading Data. And real standardization. So, don't take this as gospel but as a rough indicator. GM205M. July 21, 2020 By Joseph von Benedikt. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. We re These primers are designed for everything from small-caliber rifles and handguns to the large-caliber rifles . CCI primers offer the reloader clean, reliable ignition. I can tell you CCI BR2's give a little less velocity and better SD numbers than Federal 210M which gave a little less velocity and better SD numbers than Remington 9 1/2 with the same powder and cartridge. And small you have Magnum. and .280 Rem., to name a few. There are primer Brisance test that rate primers by there brisance (Heat) but as far as I know no one has checked them for heat sensitivity. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. Winchester Reloading Small Pistol Magnum Primers. $47.99: NA: Notify: Midway: Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers 8-1/2M. Yeah yeah yeah, and matchkings won't kill a deer. Large rifle primers all come with one brass thickness, a nominal 0.027" (unlike small rifle primers which vary from 0.020" to 0.025" depending on make/type). For example, would you guess that Sellier & Bellot primers had the lowest ES, by a significant margin? Interesting that the CCI BR2 was running hotter than the CCI 200. Winchester works to make sure all primers are reliable, instant and precise. Three shot groups. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Thank you, Laurie Simply outstanding work and write-up as I always expect when you are involved! Federal Gold Medal Large Magnum Rifle Primer - 100 Ct. $9.39. Buy in store-Limit 2. Winchester Reloading Large Rifle Magnum Primers. 0000004308 00000 n 338 Lapua size. 0000076644 00000 n One (minor) reason that small primer brass may be better than many standard LR types is that it usually noticeably easier to seat SR primers and to get good feel on their contacting the pocket floor. It is a standard factory rifle, that came with one $12.99. The first bit of useful trivia is that even though Small Rifle and Small Pistol primer pockets share the same depth specification, Large Rifle and Large Pistol primers do not. This extensive test is an important contribution to the knowledge base of precision shooting. The standard primer types are pistol, pistol magnum, rifle, and rifle magnum. and brass. This is likely a matter of conjecture. LP = Large Pistol LPM = Large Pistol Mag SR = Small Rifle LR = Large Rifle LRM = Large Rifle Mag BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Primer Size and Bullet Diameter Chart - 2 4050 S. Clark, Mexico, MO 65265 www.grafs.com 800-531-2666 32 Short Colt .313 SP 32 Winchester Special .321 LR 32-20 WCF .312 SR 32-40 WCF .320 LR 325 Winchester Short . once fired Weatherby brass and the Sierra 190-grain Match King bullet, molly $7.99. Store For Availability. JavaScript is disabled. While searching around for some info I stumbled on to this thread and its too good not to share. The effects of different primers, normal and magnums, on a Take them with a grain of salt and as a guide only. At the other end of the cartridge scale, 2.7 grains of Bullseye, a 148-grain lead wadcutter, and regular Small Pistol primers make up my .38 Special target ammo. I suspect they have a minor influence, but thats hunch not science! 0000015334 00000 n You will have match. things might turn out. Federal - 209A. hb```,? My .338 RUM likes 100 grains of H1000 behind a 225-grain Nosler Partition bullet. This may be the most comprehensive and thorough LR primer test ever done. By contrast to the Fiocchis, they were an almost slack fit in the cases and this may have contributed to their consistent performance. Laurie Holland. Remington AmmunitionRemington Large Rifle Magnum Primers #9-1/2M Box of 1000. brass. Most of the tests were of 100 or more primers. I wish I had the original range data, but it's long gone. 6,5 to 9,3 mm: 100: 10: 33: 18,4: 40,5: Percussion caps. Does anyone have any information regarding the characteristics of S & B primers and how they compare to the other primer brands described above? I learned Cci 400 and cci 550 are the same! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Large Rifle 5,3 Boxer. 2847 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<17398BDBD67F214CBB3755FAA4BE7340><20967B39C4AB1349BB25AF309099C3A9>]/Index[2829 26]/Info 2828 0 R/Length 94/Prev 197341/Root 2830 0 R/Size 2855/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream I know everyone has a favorite, and although theyre really tough to get, I would really liked to see the Wolf LR-M in that mix. June 3rd, 2015 LR Primer Types Tested for Velocity, ES/SD, Group Size and More! Store For Availability. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. I use cci 400 for my AR with great success ! Gold Medal Centerfire Primer .205. CCI "APS" Large Rifle Primers Strip . I did not put in the individual comments.